The Business of Business - Two Daughters & Their Dad

#4 - Kolby Walker from Kolby Kutz shares his Why

March 03, 2020 Staci, Jennifer & Jack Dempsey Season 1 Episode 4
The Business of Business - Two Daughters & Their Dad
#4 - Kolby Walker from Kolby Kutz shares his Why
Show Notes Transcript

Welcome to the Business of Business - Two Daughters & Their Dad Podcast!

The Dempseys - Staci, Jack and Jennifer -  are joined by fellow entrepreneur Kolby Walker from Kolby's Kutz. 

Kolby's barbering skills are not the only reason he's successful in running his own business. Kolby shares his insight on why you need more than just great talent to run your own business.  From branding to simply being likable, Kolby gives us his view on how his why means the sky is the limit.

Kolby can be reached:
Instagram:  Kolb_Kutz
Facebook:  Kolby D. Walker

But who are the Dempseys?

Jennifer Faith Dempsey has been in the beauty industry for over 10 years. The last 3 1/2 years she has owned J.Faith Hair Studio. She brings her experience on how she balances entrepreneurship and motherhood.

Staci Joy Dempsey is an insurance agent, a mom and a busy non profit volunteer. She truly understands what it means to be an entrepreneur.  Staci serves as the podcast's host.

Jack Dempsey is the dad who heads up this busy family.  He is a founding partner in Dempsey, Weiss & Associates, an Elmer, NJ based insurance and investment firm begun more than 30 years ago.

The Business of Business podcast is sponsored by:

Dempsey, Weiss & Associates, Elmer, NJ,     856-358-3900

J. Faith Hair Studio, Logan Township, NJ     856-975-5965

Email us at: TwoDaughtersAndTheirDad@gmail.com

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Jennifer Faith Dempsey has been in the beauty industry for over 10 years. For the last 5m years, she has owned J. Faith Hair Studio. She brings her experience on how she balances entrepreneurship and motherhood. Check out Jen’s blog.

Staci Joy Dempsey is an insurance agent, a mom, and a busy non-profit volunteer. She truly understands what it means to be an entrepreneur. Staci serves as the podcast's host.

Jack Dempsey is the dad who heads up this busy family. He is a founding partner in Dempsey, Weiss & Associates, an Elmer, NJ-based insurance and investment firm that began more than 30 years ago.

Staci Dempsey:   0:00
Hey there. And welcome to the business of business podcast. Here were two daughters and their dad seeking to inspire and educate you to follow your dreams of being in business by teaching you the business of being in business. The good, the bad, the humor are all parts of our unique perspective as an entrepreneurial family. Thanks for joining us. So grab a coffee. Turn up the volume. Here we go.    Well, hello, everyone. And welcome back to the business of business podcast Two daughters and their dad. I am your host, Staci J. Dempsey and the J is very important because it brings the joy. And as always, I have the dad and the daughter with me. Say, hi, guys.

Jennifer Dempsey:   0:40
Hi, everybody.

Jack Dempsey:   0:42
Hello, everyone.

Staci Dempsey:   0:44
And we are very, very, very excited. Because today we have our very first guest with us on our podcast here, Kolby Kutz.   So welcome. How you doing?  

Kolby D. Walker:   0:55
I'm doing so good. Thank you for having  me.

Staci Dempsey:   0:57
Yeah, thank you for being here. So we already kind of started to have a small conversation beforehand. So before we kind of get into our questions, Jen, I wanted just for you to introduce Kolby to our listeners.

Jennifer Dempsey:   1:10
I am so excited that Kolby is here today. I've known Kolby a long time. We went to high school together. We have shared the interests of the beauty industry really for many, many years. And I think what I appreciate the most is every time I ask, you always show up and support me since the beginning. You came to the salon when we first opened. When you opened your barbershop, I showed up for you. So there's a lot of love in this room.   I'm excited for you to just share your story where you started, where you are now.  But, the one thing that I want to know, but I don't think I've ever asked you - I'm gonna let you introduce yourself, of course - but have you ever done anything else other than barbering? Like, have you ever had, when we were younger, did you work at McDonald's?

Kolby D. Walker:   2:04
That that's very funny.  You said McDonald specifically; I worked there for like two days. SeriouslyI was already You know, trying to get my hands in the barbering industry, you know, obviously was still in high school. I was cutting after the school things like that, but it was in the very early stage. And, um, actually, McDonald's was the first job I ever applied for. They had like a little group interview on like a Saturday morning. Actually, you know what? Now that I remember the day it was right before Logan Day,

Kolby D. Walker:   2:32
Like on a Saturday morning 

Kolby D. Walker:   2:34
I was worried about meeting my friends at login day and they called me up and we had this little morning group interview when they ended up calling me for the job.  OK, I guess I'm working at McDonald's now, Whatever. That didn't really last long. Um, during the time that I remember that I had got hired, then a few days later, they were looking for like a new manager.  I remember I just took it, that is like  my way out. They don't even know me anyway. Then the new manager, my mama got contact with him and I remember after school one day she was like go talk to the new manager.  He said he would come back and where he just want to talk to me and I was like alright  so I go up there after school one day and I'm talking to the manager. He was like, I had a talk with your mom and she told me she really didn't think that you wanted to come back to much.   I was like, I don't like they did. My mom didn't know that was my plan, that I was gonna be that transparent with me, But I just like I was honest. I was like, yeah, I really don't want to have to be honest. And he was like, I can't keep you here. And I was like, All right, I turned around and went back home. And that's what my mom happy that was that. But besides, that the same thing, having few years later I was I was It was a for a small period of time. I was in a transition between shops at the time, I worked a temp job. Another thing that lasted for, like, a few days, and I just was like, This is cool. But I was like, I know this ain't going to last long as I'm not even gonna get comfortable here, and I didn't quit, but like I said it was a temp  spot. I was still, you know, doing my own business, at home, whatever. In that following weeks, they have filled the position with somebody who was sent to hire anyone. I was like, Okay, cool. They don't need us no more. So I'm not going back. But honestly, I was the only experiences I had with other jobs. Other name, you know, being self employed in the hair industry.  

Jennifer Dempsey:   4:15
Wow. Wow.  

Kolby D. Walker:   4:16
You know, here we are 15 or so years later, huh?

Staci Dempsey:   4:19
Wow. So tell us a little bit about your business and how it started. And really anything you want to share with us.

Kolby D. Walker:   4:25
Well, my business my salon is Symmetry Unisex Hair Studio, located on King's Highway,  14 06 Kings Highway and Swedesboro, New Jersey.  I'm a co owner with my partner. She's a beautician,  her name is Erika. Oh, me & her have been working together now for Ah, about 10 years. We opened the location that we're at now together three years ago. Really was three years ago. Last week.  Yeah, so you know, it's ah, family atmosphere. We all comfortable get along great. We just have fun at work every day. You know, we just similar did to you guys. I'm sure you not see the camaraderie you on your staff always have. But you know, Yeah,

Staci Dempsey:   5:01
that's great. And so just so that people have a reference where your shop is located is really in a very bustling area now in South Jersey. And so what does that kind of feel like, being in an area that one time was not so great then kinda has really become very bustling with restaurants, places, you know, shops obviously get your hair done, you'll get your cut and things like that. So what does it feel like to be in that area? Because I know that, you know, obviously grew up in that area as well.

Kolby D. Walker:   5:31
I very I really love like to see where the area is now. Like you said, I really grew up there from the time I was pretty much born. That was the area that I grew up in. And like I remember, like, you know, just being the kid in the area, specifically where my storefront is that they used to be Ah ah, movie and video game rental place. where I was when I was growing up, you know? So I literally remember, like, growing up around my bike to go rent a video game and what is now my my business, you know, So is is that feeling of just like seeing the area. So it's kind of like I can see, I guess it's kind of like my group just, you know, becoming an adult in the same area that I grew up in. And I see the increase of the area around, so it's kind of like grew up with it, you know, I'm saying it's just good to see for sure feeling definitely good to see

Staci Dempsey:   6:18
That's awesome. So it sounds like from what you've already shared, that you started cutting hair very young. Now, was that self taught? Was there someone that you that you were already like where you mentored by someone?

Kolby D. Walker:   6:33
It kinds was like a look & learned thing.  I had a few people that I can say I I drew early inspiration from;  barbers that I had, you know when I was growing up.  It it was something around that age and I really looked at it. I was like, I think I could do that. And then as soon as I started, I just never stopped. And I was like I am pretty good at this, you know? And that was it, you know.  But I remember I literally remember having thought - like watching people could when I was a kid - Like, I think I can do that.  And then, you know, once I got my hands when I was like, I can do this.  And that was that.

Staci Dempsey:   7:08
Now, say when When you say look and learn. Now, this is the long before YouTube was a thing with you, right? We're still, like, in that area, You know, we can't just google something or watching a youtube video, so, you know, you say, look and learn. Was that just like you going to get your hair cut and you just feeling like, you know what? This is a real strong interest for me?

Kolby D. Walker:   7:32
It was, that's exactly what it was.  A cousin of mine, I remember being home one day, I was at my aunt's house and her husband, they had went somewhere and left me him home for a home, not long for a little bit, and I was like, and he kind of just was down with whatever idea I had anyway, I was just like his dad had it, like a few pair of clippers. I was like, You're about to cut your hair. He was like, All right. Okay. I mean, obviously it wasn't cold cuts. I am now, but to my surprise, we did it up. We both was like,

Kolby D. Walker:   8:01
Okay, this this is high right

Kolby D. Walker:   8:02
here. Like Okay, that was young. I was before I even, like, started to do it like continuously. I mean, I was like a kid. I might've been like 11 when I did that, you know? But just to aren't surprised. He was like, you know this isn't

Kolby D. Walker:   8:14
like that bad. And

Kolby D. Walker:   8:15
I was like, You know what? It's not, you know, a few years later, when I really got into it for sure I was like, Yeah, I think this is it for me right here.

Staci Dempsey:   8:25
And then you are also cutting hair through high school.   And then all through high school...

Kolby D. Walker:   8:30
By the time I really like knew I wanted to take it serious, that probably was like, sophomore year, or going into sophomore year.   Like, from there, that pretty much was like my my job on up.

Staci Dempsey:   8:39
So taking it serious, it was "What does that look like?: That you were like, This is I'm all in. This is what I'm gonna do every day, all day

Kolby D. Walker:   8:47
After school, I thought I'll get the homework later, I got hair  to cut.

Jennifer Dempsey:   8:52
Wow......

Kolby D. Walker:   8:53
I mean, I got me in trouble a little bit, you know? Yeah, my mom. That was my form of punishment. You know, I was a good kid, but I really wasn't the best student on paper. Just to be honest.  If I brought home a bad report card mom was like Okay, you can like a hair on weekends.  I was devastated, devastated.  She took my cell phone. I was like, Okay, cool, whatever.  Punishment that I can't play video games with Boom Boom, okay.  I'll  get through that.  But, I'm not gonna cut hair?  I was like, wow, that  hit the heart.

Jennifer Dempsey:   9:22
Yeah,

Kolby D. Walker:   9:23
What do I do now, you know.

Jennifer Dempsey:   9:24
Wow.  

Jack Dempsey:   9:25
So Kolby Let me ask you so now, obviously you went  I went on to go to school, right, because you have to be absolutely licensed. Now, Did you do that right out of high school?

Kolby D. Walker:   9:34
Right after.  Cosmetology school was pretty much my college. I went to Gloucester County Institute, the vocational program where I took the adult classes right at the school. So I was working in shops by then.  So I was working, cutting during the day. I was in the shop for a few days a week, and I still was cutting at home inside of time. But, I was doing that at all during the day, and I was in class that night.

Jack Dempsey:   9:54
So here's the question. Because, you know, as you know, this podcast is around the business of business. So in your case that businesses is barbering, doing hair. So how much time was spent in your formal education on doing the business of?

Kolby D. Walker:   10:17
Let me see when it comes to if you want to enroll in cosmetology school in New Jersey,  just to be honest, I mean, they mention it, but it is not covered.  I'm sure we all know that that's probably an issue in more than than one avenue of a learning a trade or any business.  They should definitely should be more specific by getting that into the into the brains of students, beyond the talent, you know,.  But I'm not saying that they didn't mention it at all, but not not a lot, you know, So is there is definitely some, to be honest,  there is some research you're gonna have to find out on your own, you know, going into those those rooms of business, you know?

Jack Dempsey:   10:57
Yeah. And that's what really is the purpose of this, right?  This is really what we find =.  I told you a little bit about my story. I mean, I was taught how to go out and sell insurance and get in front of people to do that. But then as you start to grow, you know, I realized that well, I got I need to hire people to do things if I'm gonna continue grow.  And then here came the business side and  nobody had taught me on.   You can even find that you talked to someone who has ah, accounting firm, a  law firm and teach him how to be an accountant. They teach him out to be a lawyer. They don't teach him how to do the business of that, you know? So, you know, I wasn't surprised.  So at what point did you feel like? Okay, um, that I want to turn this into a my own business.  

Kolby D. Walker:   11:52
Right. Well, dependent on the actual, like as trade or which are no businesses, which they're going into, it's your own from the beginning.   I mean, just making that I guess officially or legally, you know, is like I said, some things you're going to find out like, uh, right after hair school, whatever the trade may be.   But if this happens to reach the ears of anybody going into business or anybody, young or whatever, just making that new changes don't put that stuff to to the side. I will say that. You know, once you want you, uh, lock and load on what your talent is that what you want to go for a with definitely pay attention today to the aspects of everything else is gonna have to go behind it. Don't try to sweep that under the rug and say I deal with that later. You know, just deal with it all, you know, from the forefront. And that's probably best not to say

Jack Dempsey:   12:44
Let's go back to what you said there you have to take.   So in your case, you were thinking about, even though you were working for someone else ,in your mind you are already working for yourself. Is that what I'm hearing?

Kolby D. Walker:   13:00
I guess you could say that, right.  

Jack Dempsey:   13:02
So was that just in that moment that you say, okay, I'm working for myself. Or ultimately, I'm going to be working for myself ?   Jennifer, for example, is certainly communicating to her team -  Yeah, you know, you're building something for yourself. It's under our brand. But you are building something for yourself. That kind of where you were at?

Kolby D. Walker:   13:24
Yes and I could probably kind of speak for me &  Jim, when it comes to this, and you know specifically what we do.  Outside of the literal you know, thinking of Okay, I work at ...  Let's just take somebody that you know has a chair in my shop or in Jenn's shop or whatever, no matter what the the situation may be,  I could say OK, this is this is the building, this is the actual space on working I'm working or whatever. Okay, this is a team effort, of course but I'm in somebody else's shop.  But at the same time, the more and more you put into it is what you're gonna reap from it.  So with that being in mind, you need to treat yourself for sure like your sole own business, you know.  We like the working conditions to be good and all that.  Like I said, we were gonna work together, but we can lead you to the water, but we can't make you drink it.  You're still going to have to do what you need to do on your own to make it that much better for you.  So that definitely needs to play in the mind set, no matter what. That, Okay, there's this is me, and this is mine. I'm gonna take care of that, you know? So you definitely have to have that mindset and I'm in my own business.

Staci Dempsey:   14:27
Sounds like you for even in the very beginning that you always kind of branded yourself as yourself. Even if you were in someone else's space, shop, chair and what not you were you and still people were coming - my understanding from what Jenn has shared is people were coming to you, not because of the building you were in, but because of you and your talent and how you've branded yourself.   Did someone did someone ever talk to you about branding yourself or is that just kind of been the mindset? I mean, kind of where have you gotten this this insight from? Because I think that, you know, from our experience, people  want to be and do their own business but they're still in that potentially that employee mindset until they maybe become say, you know, an official LLC - you know are legal or you know, or or however you want to call it, it sounds like, you know, like I said, our experiences have been people say well, I'm not my own brand until I do XYZ.  Did someone kind of help you or how did you come about that mindset. And how have you chosen to really brand yourself?

Kolby D. Walker:   15:34
That's a great question.   How can I say I'm trying to say -  I kind of fell into it a little bit. I guess I can say,  I probably didn't realize it till later on, you know? Ah, Kold Kutz was a nickname.

Jennifer Dempsey:   15:54
I'm gonna help you out here a little bit because Kolby, when we've talked about that, this and other podcasts, Kolby started with talent. Right?  Early on, you were like, Okay, I'm passionate about this. I have the talent to do this. And then I think you just kind of evolved. Kolby Kutz was a nickname. And now you know, Kolby Kutz  is ringing bells in the streets. Okay. Right. Like everyone wants their hair cut by him.   So when you say it fell into your lap, would you say, you know, you didn't intentionally say Okay, I'm gonna have a barbershop on the main strip in Swedesboro.  Was that a game plan for you?  

Kolby D. Walker:   16:37
I mean, skies with the limit for sure.  So I never put a cap on what I wanted to do in business. But when I when I say that I kind of, like, fell into it, I guess you know so, branding,  I think that ties into a lot of just who you are as a person, you know, before you even get to the business.  I mean, I'm not trying to lift myself or anything pat myself on the back, but people, the brand wouldn't build itself on its own if people really didn't like me too much - you know when I'm saying?   I think that's the and especially when you're dealing with something like this, that such a personal space; somebody sits in my chair, we're in a close circle, you know, if I'm going to Jenn to get my hair done, she might be the best, in Jersey, in the  tri state or wherever. If people don't like her too much, then I'm saying they're they're not going to deal with her, you know, I don't care what service she's giving me,  I don't want to be around her for this hour.  I'm saying I think that has a lot to do with branding on its own. It's like when when you see me, when I see Jenn or when somebody sees me outside of what we do for a living, what we might be known for, people still don't have a problem with talking to us, having a conversation with us about what's going on. That's  just interaction on another level. And I think that's a big part of self branding.

Jennifer Dempsey:   17:57
All right, you're totally downplaying you. You people see you outside the barbershop in there fan-girling out right like " I saw Kolby outside the barbershop because he works 50 60 hours a week, Right? So let me just ask you this if you could give a piece of advice to any entrepreneur, not just in our industry, someone that wants to go into business for themselves. What would that piece of advice be?

Kolby D. Walker:   18:29
Somebody that wants to go in business for themselves? I would definitely say, well there that might be a few things I would say.  I would definitely start with just know that it's gonna take a lot of the labor and a lot of hours. Don't think because you're self employed now there's gonna be easier than any other 9 to 5 or anything else.   I'm saying its going to take more.  Its going to take double or triple that, To be honest,  don't try to take  - people like to say, Oh, you're self employed so you can make you own hours, you could do this or that.  Okay, but you understand that to be able to do that what I had to do.   I might travel sometimes and someone says you always on vacation is.  That's not the case here. You know you if I put out one picture that I'm somewhere enjoying myself you don't know that I worked 60 hours a week to do that. You don't know what I just did the past four or five days straight

Jennifer Dempsey:   19:20
Right you had to work 7 days straight to get a  couple days off.

Kolby D. Walker:   19:21
Right. Exactly. So I will definitely say just know and  be aware that this is not easy at all. It is is gonna be harder that a lot of people think.

Jack Dempsey:   19:33
I want to go back to this fan girling thing.

Kolby D. Walker:   19:38
I don't know what she's talking about.  

Staci Dempsey:   19:42
 But so this is the thing from our perspective.  So Jack does have fan girls, right? He just doesn't know its called fan girling.  He has the clients that have been with him for a long time.  

Jack Dempsey:   19:57
Daughters

Staci Dempsey:   20:02
He has the client's he's had for a long time that when they come in they go "Oh Jack you never age.   Staci, your dad looks so good.  You're so lean..."  Wow. You know, you know, now I'm looking at this 75 year old woman like now listen lady!  I get it. You like & I like him too now let's move on.

Jack Dempsey:   20:32
So, yeah, that I mean, that's great advice. I mean, I think you're absolutely dead on when it comes to starting anything this meaningful.  I think there is that. They underestimate.  You know I always say  Kolby, they see, are they see our front door when they should be looking at a our back door. And that's, I think is what is important for people to understand. I would even use the word grueling at times, you know, to run your business. I mean, again, it's a good grueling because you know, you're investing in yourself, and ultimately there's gonna be a payoff for that. But that was that was good counsel. Because, like you said, I think people really do underestimate what it takes.

Kolby D. Walker:   21:18
Take a look at the back door. I might use that.

Staci Dempsey:   21:22
It's gonna be his next  caption on his instagram.

Kolby D. Walker:   21:25
I'll make sure, I quote you that.

Staci Dempsey:   21:26
So I have I have two more questions. So we've talked about challenges and grueling, as Jack said at times, but whats been your biggest success so far?  What do you feel the most proud off right now?

Kolby D. Walker:   21:45
What I feel the most proud of?  I mean, is this might sound very general a cliche, but I'm literally just proud that I still get to walk into my own business and share with people I love and we have fun doing it day in, day out.  And I'm saying, that's that's enough for me. You know, it doesn't have to be  all glitz and glamor for me. Honestly, you know.  I get to do something I'm still passionate for.   I meet a lot of great people along the way, and people come in the door happy, and I get to increase it. You know, I'm saying that and, like, I keep good people around me, you know? Ah, people that are well mannered, well spirited and we just always feed off each other. And that's that's what I'm most happy of.  I can't really complain; that's what I'm happy about.

Jennifer Dempsey:   22:36
I would agree. I think  we see a lot of people every day. And would you agree? I talk to a lot of people that absolutely hate their job - they say like I cannot believe I'm stuck in this job doing what I'm doing.  When you're passionate, Um, especially how we are in the hair industry. It's like I can't even believe...  it's a lot of work.

Kolby D. Walker:   23:00
Yeah, I was about to say, don't get it wrong and still work.  Like I still have my bills when I go home, just like the next person.  With all that being said, I'm still, um, that the fact that I can control it and it's like I said, I'm just so grateful that something started off as a, talent that I recognized. And I'm even grateful for finding that and being able to go forward with it.  I could literally live - I'm living the life that I'm not mad about off a a talent. You know, not a lot of people can say that. You know, there's people that play ball people, that rap, who are musicians or something that could probably touch that at some point. But everything has its challenges. But like I said, I really can't complain for that fact. I'm happy about that the most.

Staci Dempsey:   23:44
Awesome last question  - your mom used to put you on punishment only be able to cut two days out of seven. So what's your mom say now?

Kolby D. Walker:   23:55
We laugh about it now, but see that literally was, she had to get me where hurt.  I mean, she's proud of me, you know? Every now and then, my mom's on my instagram story.  People love her. She comes in my shop all the time.  She's the shop Mom, You know, she comes and she does her thing, its her way of feeling involved. She comes in, she does my salon towels for me. So she comes and she gets all the towels and goes to wash them and bring them back. She goes in the bathroom and says " Oh, you need toilet paper" .  She does the motherly thing in the shop.  So my client's love her.  Everybody calls her Kimmy cuts  - my mom's name is Kim. I love her man.

Staci Dempsey:   24:36
Yeah. So she's not mad!

Jack Dempsey:   24:39
So, Kolby, let me ask you another question, before we wrap up.   One of the things that we talk about and we're actually gonna be moving into that in an upcoming episode is you know, like you said, there's gonna be very challenging times, very challenging days in your business.  We talk about the difference between the how and the why.   So you know how to do? Yeah, you know your craft and you know how to do it Very well. But what we usually find is that when those tough days come that how doesn't really, you know, help? You know, what you need is a strong why.   Why am I doing this?  So again, we know we were hitting it off the cuff. But you know, if someone asked you that - Why are you doing this every day? What would be your response?

Kolby D. Walker:   25:32
Um, I think everybody can probably figure out their own personal Why .  But I think all of our whys come back to kind of the same thing. And it's always our purpose.  The big thing with purpose is that purpose always comes back to somehow how it affects other people.  And in a lot of businesses its always ....  that's pretty much what business - I'm not going to say all of them, but a lot of business comes back to some sort of service you're giving people.  How it makes them feel.  With me specifically, I would that's my why.  Like I said, trust me, I got my days when I don't feel like getting up, getting out of bed.  I've got a long day at work, this and that, boom. Then I get to work and somebody's having the worst time to me and I have made their day.   So I would say, that's my wife. You know how I'm affecting other people day in and day out through what I love to do.

Jack Dempsey:   26:27
That's all right. That's great.

Staci Dempsey:   26:28
Well said, Well said, While I hope our listeners can feel the motivation and the inspiration that at least I know I feel the room. So Kolby, I don't think we could have asked for a better first guest. I mean, I'm this has been great

Kolby D. Walker:   26:43
I'm excited for you guys ; I will be listening.

Staci Dempsey:   26:44
Well, thank you. Share and subscribe. Good. No, thank you. Really. We really do appreciate your time out to come and be here with us. Everything you shared has just been absolutely phenomenal. So Thank you. And thank you to our listeners. Yes. As I said before, make sure you subscribe and share. And until we see each other and talk to each other again.   We want to thank you for listening today. Please subscribes. Never miss an episode. Leave us a positive review and we want to say thank you to our sponsors Dempsey ,Weiss Associates and J. Faith Hair Studio.